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DELHIVERY Diversified 31 Jan 2025

Delhivery Limited — Q3 FY25

Delhivery reported Q3 FY25 revenue of INR 2,378 crore, up 8.4% YoY, with EBITDA of INR 102 crore (4.3% margin) and PAT of INR 25 crore.

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Revenue ₹2,378 Cr +8.4%
EBITDA ₹102 Cr -6.4%
PAT ₹25 Cr +108.3%
EBITDA Margin 4.3% -70bps
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Questions answered96%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected0
Numbers vs filingContradicted
Claim Ledger

Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Answered High priority

Steady-state margins for express parcel business and impact of in-sourcing.

Asked by Sachin Salgaonkar, Bank of America

Management gave a specific margin range and addressed in-sourcing impact directly.

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First question, Sahil, more on the margins for the core express business. What should we think about the steady-state margins for this business, and how far are we from that number? And does anything change with one of the top operators sort of in-sourcing in terms of how you guys look at a steady-state margin?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
In terms of margins, the overall steady-state margins for the business, we think, will remain in the range that we've spoken about before. I think for the express parcel business, service EBITDA margins will remain in the 17%-20% range.
Answered High priority

PTL margin improvement trend and D2C rapid commerce scaling.

Asked by Sachin Salgaonkar, Bank of America

Management explained the margin trend and gave specific growth and revenue estimates for rapid commerce.

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My second question again is on margin, but more on the PTL side. Last two years, if you see, we had some solid improvement in the margin, but versus that last three quarters, we are not seeing a sharp improvement. So just wanted to understand the trend of margin improvement going ahead. Should it be gradual, or we should see a good bump up out there? And lastly, we just wanted to know a bit of an update in terms of how the D2C rapid commerce is scaling.
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
On PTL margins, I think the reason why I'm not seeing a more sharper uplift is because... the PTL network shares a certain percentage of that cost because we run on the same trucks... I think if you were to eliminate those, the PTL margin uptake would be even higher.
Answered High priority

Express parcel margin decline due to own fleet share and volume growth.

Asked by Gaurav Rateria, Morgan Stanley

Management provided specific reasons and quantified the impact on earnings.

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express parcel service EBITDA margin, not just being lower for this quarter, but also on nine-month basis, it seems that the operating leverage has played negatively given the volume growth has been muted in low single digit. Is this also driven by we becoming more heavier on our own share of the vehicles in the network?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
Express, on Service EBITDA, I think the Express Service EBITDA in Q2, Q3 were muted... largely because some of our fixed investments, especially one of them being the Bangalore Hoskote facility coming live... In Q3 specifically... fleet costs went up a little more than we expected... caused an overall drag of about INR 12-15 crores on the earnings.
Answered Medium priority

Infra addition vs volume growth and spare capacity.

Asked by Gaurav Rateria, Morgan Stanley

Management gave specific CapEx guidance and confirmed sufficient capacity.

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On infra addition, has that been in line with our overall volume growth in the system, or we have built more spare capacity in the last nine months compared to the last year, which kind of allows us to go slower on capacity building for the next year as we grow revenues?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
In terms of infra addition, I think broadly infra addition has been in line with capacity. In fact, if you look at our CapEx as a percentage of revenue, we are in fact ahead of the guidance... this year we will end up with CapEx as a percentage of revenue being 5.6% or lower... We have sufficient capacity in the network.
Answered High priority

PTL growth acceleration and competition pricing actions.

Asked by Gaurav Rateria, Morgan Stanley

Management gave specific growth target and explained competitive dynamics.

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on PTL, what we can do to further accelerate growth in this business, or we should look at this as a 15%-20% volume growth business when the industry is barely growing at high single digit? Lastly, on the competition... what makes us believe that they would be required to take some pricing action which could favor us?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
On PTL, absolutely not. The business is not expected to grow at just sort of the 16%-20% range... our own ambition internally is certainly to grow the business overall at nearly 25%-30% in the next financial year. In terms of competition... I think in this industry, we are reaching sort of, in some senses, a reckoning.
Answered High priority

Integrated model vs variabilized model and entry barriers.

Asked by Lokesh Maru, Nippon India

Management directly addressed the model comparison and cost advantage.

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one fundamental question on our model, which is integrated in nature... what has also happened is Valmo has challenged that one way of working... their model would be more variabilized in nature... it raises questions on the entry barriers in this industry, right? So your thoughts on the same.
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
The entry barriers in logistics, if you consider entry to merely be the ability to deliver a package, are zero... That said, there are significant barriers to scale in logistics... our belief is that our cost of delivery is anywhere between 8% and 10% lower than even the in-house sort of variabilized networks.
Answered Medium priority

Externalization of Valmo or other captive networks as threat.

Asked by Lokesh Maru, Nippon India

Management gave a clear and confident answer dismissing the threat.

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one more thing on externalization of, say, Valmo or ATS or Instacart. How do you see that? ... do you see that disrupting some bit of volumes?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
Not in the least. For very simple reasons... I would argue that externalization is more or less a dead-on-arrival proposition which has been tested and hasn't worked.
Answered High priority

Express segment margin decline despite line haul expense management.

Asked by Mukesh Saraf, Spark Capital Advisors

Management clarified the specific cost line and provided exact figures.

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If I look at your overall line haul expenses that you have on slide 18, it has come off YOY as a percentage of revenue. But you do mention that that's one of the major reasons why your margins in this segment is down like 500 basis points YOY. So I'm just wondering, you've been able to kind of manage these higher line haul expenses in other segments except this express segment.
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
Sorry, I'm talking about the fleet costs that went up YOY, the vehicle rental expenses. This is the intracity fleet... Vehicle rental expenses went from 19.8% or INR 434 crores in Q3 fiscal 2024 to 20.8% in Q3 fiscal 2025.
Answered Medium priority

PTL volume decline and SME segment pressure.

Asked by Mukesh Saraf, Spark Capital Advisors

Management provided specific volume data and explained the sequential decline as tactical.

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on the PTL segment, I think after like six, seven quarters, we have seen first-time a sequential decline in volumes. I mean, when I look at some of your other peers, listed peers, they've also seen some kind of a pressure on volumes this quarter. Are you seeing some signs of difficulty there, especially in the SME segment in terms of the PTL?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
No, Mukesh. As I mentioned, actually, December, we closed very strongly. We were at about 147,000 tons of billable freight in December, and we've continued very strongly into January.
Partial answer High priority

Customer profile for Express Parcel and revenue growth for FY26.

Asked by Abhishek Banerjee, Macquarie Capital

Management declined to give a specific breakdown or growth number, only qualitative guidance.

no specific breakdown givenno revenue growth number provided
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the first question is on the customer profile for the Express Parcel business. You mentioned how your contribution of D2C has gone up, right? So what would the breakup be around now? And given you believe that most of the headwinds from Meesho in-sourcing is now out, right? So what is kind of a number to kind of build in in terms of revenue growth?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
Yeah, we don't break up our Express Parcel volumes by customer segment. That said, I can tell you that the non-marketplace portion of deliveries total volumes is fairly meaningful... From a revenue guidance standpoint... I think broadly, whatever sort of market growth is, we will more or less be able to maintain our growth in line with market growth.
Answered Medium priority

Express parcel volume trend after October peak and demand softness.

Asked by Sachin Dixit, JM Financial

Management explained the seasonal pattern and consumption slowdown without evasion.

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During the last earnings call, you mentioned that roughly 78 million odd shipments happened in October. November and December seem stepped from that perspective, right? We were on a good trend in October, but it dipped quite sharply. Can you elaborate more on that? What happened? Was it just the overall e-commerce demand evaporating?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
No, in fact... I said that the 30% uptick... was par for the course... There's always a step down after the peak season. I think there's also buying fatigue... And there's been a broader sort of softness in consumption.
Answered High priority

Levers to achieve 17-20% margin without volume growth and pricing strategy.

Asked by Gaurav Rateria, Morgan Stanley

Management gave a clear yes and explained the rationale for not forcing consolidation.

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assuming that volume growth in the overall express business remains subdued, do we have levers to get back to 17%-20% margin range, or will it be a function of growth and thereby operating leverage in that? Second question is, why wait for price action from competition, and why we don't act as leaders and try to force consolidation?
Sahil Barua, Managing Director and CEO
On express, to get to the 17%-20% margin, can we get there without significant volume growth? I think the answer is yes. We can... Why not force consolidation? I think the issue obviously is... it's better to let discipline sort of enforce itself, so we'll wait and watch.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
D2C business grew 30% YOY, SME business grew over 50% YOY. 30% 8.4% Overstated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.