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BPCL Diversified 01 Nov 2023

Bharat Petroleum Corporation Limited — Q2 FY24

BPCL reported a stellar Q2 FY24 with PAT of ₹8,501 crore, driven by robust refining margins (GRM of $18.49/bbl) and strong marketing performance.

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Revenue ₹1,03,044 Cr
EBITDA
EBITDA Margin 13%
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Read Time 1 min read

✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered67%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected2
Numbers vs filing
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Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Answered High priority

Asked about GRM outperformance vs Asian benchmark, especially Bina Refinery.

Asked by Probal Sen, ICICI Securities

Management explained specific factors: improved cracks, high sulfur crude processing, product slate flexibility, and Russian crude.

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Just wanted to understand if you can just, you know, explain to us where this, you know, outperformance against Asian benchmark is coming from.
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
The quarter gone by July to September, everyone is aware the crack itself has improved... The major other influencing factors for the Bina Refinery is our crude mix... higher crude intake of Russian Urals...
Partial answer Medium priority

Asked for percentage of diesel, gasoline, ATF in product mix.

Asked by Probal Sen, ICICI Securities

Management only provided diesel share, not the combined percentage asked.

only gave diesel percentage, not gasoline/ATF
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Is it possible to give us a sense of, diesel, gasoline and ATF, these three, would be roughly how much of our overall product is as a percentage?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
Okay, roughly you can take Bina 57%, and Kochi we can take up to 45%, and Mumbai also we can take 45.
Answered High priority

Asked about capital allocation and CapEx deployment over next three years.

Asked by Mayank Maheshwari, Morgan Stanley

Management provided detailed breakdown of CapEx by segment and stated returns are considered.

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Can you just give us a sense of how we will be deploying the CapEx over the next three years, and what kind of returns are you kind of expecting out of that?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
Our capital outlay for the next 5 years, we have workload around INR 150,000 crore... The major chunk... around INR 49,000 crore... We always are endeavoring to take good projects with good returns.
Answered Medium priority

Asked about increase in creditors and other current liabilities.

Asked by Sabri Hazarika, Emkay Global

Management explained the excise duty timing and inventory procurement as reasons.

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Your creditors as well as other current liabilities, both have grown, gone up significantly... Any specific reason behind that?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
For March 2023, the excise duty we paid before 31st March, whereas for September, we have at least three, four days time to make the payment... That is the one reason...
Answered Medium priority

Asked about profitability of EV charging stations and green hydrogen tender status.

Asked by Sabri Hazarika, Emkay Global

Management answered both parts: EV profitability is minimal, green hydrogen tender not yet awarded.

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Can you give us some sense on what, how much, what is the kind of, like, profitability per EV charging stations you are making right now... Second question is whether the green hydrogen tenders of Bina Refinery has been awarded...
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
We are not expecting any good profits immediate basis... capacity utilization of EV charging stations are retail outlet, very, very minimal... Green hydrogen, we have refloated the tender for 5 meters of 5 MT per annum. Not yet awarded...
Partial answer High priority

Asked about Mozambique project status and CapEx finalization.

Asked by Kirtan Mehta, BOB Capital Markets

Management acknowledged force majeure but gave vague timeline and no CapEx update.

no timeline givenno CapEx finalization details
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Regarding the Mozambique project, could you give us the current status, and when do you expect? Has the CapEx been finalized by the owners...
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
For Mozambique project, there is no change in terms of the force majeure. Still, it is under force majeure only... We are hopeful, shortly, maybe next couple of quarters, something can, positively it can happen.
Evasive High priority

Asked about Russian crude usage level in Q3 vs Q2.

Asked by Kirtan Mehta, BOB Capital Markets

Management refused to give exact numbers and only said they are close to potential.

no exact numbers givenvague reference to potential
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Would you be able to give us some more color on the Russian crude usage in terms of the quarterly usage? Are we able to maintain a similar level in Q3 despite the increase in the crude prices?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
I cannot give exact numbers, we cannot say, but at least in the similar quarters, what potentially we can process the Russian crude, as we are close to our potential crude processing...
Partial answer High priority

Asked about current quarter trends in cracks and marketing profitability.

Asked by Ajay Marwaha, Nuvama

Management gave qualitative trends but refused to quantify or give guidance.

no specific numbersdeclined guidance on profitability
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After such a fantastic quarter, how are things shaping up in the current quarter so far in the month of October? Meaning in terms of the cracks... and on the marketing side as well?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
At least in terms of the cracks, the gasoline a little bit moderated now compared to the Q2... Marketing side, we are doing good growth... We generally don't give any guidance...
Answered Medium priority

Asked about marketing inventory gains reversal from loss to gain.

Asked by S. Ramesh, Nirmal Bang Equities

Management explained the calculation methodology for inventory gains.

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If you look at the marketing inventory gains, how do you explain the reversal from the loss in first quarter to the marketing inventory gain of INR 1,497 crore...
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
No, generally, it is not any accounting gains... on account of my crude price movement and product price movement, what is the changeover of my inventory... That is what we work out...
Evasive Medium priority

Asked about CGD business timeline for commercial results and EBITDA per unit.

Asked by S. Ramesh, Nirmal Bang Equities

Management declined to provide any quantitative estimates or timeline.

no timeline givenno EBITDA per unit provided
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Is it possible to give us some kind of timeline as to when we can see the commercial results in your standalone P&L, and what is the kind of EBITDA per unit of gas...
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
At this point of time, we will not be in a position to give any estimation on the volume sales of CGD... We need some more time to assess exactly in next couple of years...
Answered Medium priority

Asked about quantum of excise duty payment and working capital impact.

Asked by Chinmay Gandre, Canara HSBC Life Insurance

Management provided a specific range for monthly excise duty payment.

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What will be the quantum of this payment related to the excise duty?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
Generally, every month we pay around INR 7,000 crore, around, around INR 7,000, 7.2, 7.3, around. Depends on the refined throughput on that particular month.
Partial answer High priority

Asked if Russian crude processing is at full optimized level and percentage of total intake.

Asked by Maulik Patel, Equirus Securities

Management confirmed full potential but only gave a vague range for percentage.

no exact percentage givenvague confirmation
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Is that till the time we process this, I mean, whatever the Russian oil which we are processing it, currently we are running at full optimized level... That could be almost 30%-40% of our total intake?
V.R.K. Gupta, Director of Finance
At least we are, we are pushing up to the potential level... Roughly all three refineries put together, that range, that range.