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AJANTPHARM Diversified 30 Jan 2024

Ajanta Pharma Limited — Q3 FY24

Ajanta Pharma reported a strong Q3 FY24 with consolidated revenue of INR 1,105 crore, up 14% YoY, driven by broad-based growth across branded generics.

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Revenue ₹1,105 Cr +14%
EBITDA ₹314 Cr
PAT ₹210 Cr
EBITDA Margin 28%
Duration
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✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered96%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected0
Numbers vs filingMixed
Claim Ledger

Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Answered High priority

Red Sea impact on Asia and Africa sales in Q4?

Asked by Rashmi Shetty, Dolat Capital

Management directly stated no significant impact and reaffirmed guidance.

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So on this Red Sea impact, which you mentioned, that, you know, it is going to impact the EBITDA in quarter four, is this something that it is going to impact the supplies in Asia and Africa sales in quarter four?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
No, not significantly. I think whatever guidances we have given for each of the regions we should be able to meet those guidances.
Answered High priority

Growth outlook for Asia and Africa in FY25-26?

Asked by Rashmi Shetty, Dolat Capital

Provided explicit growth range for future years.

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So, for Asia business, low double digit you have given for this year, right? And, for FY 2025 and 2026, how should we look at this thing?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
Going forward also, we expect around the low-teens to mid-teens numbers for Africa and Asia.
Answered Medium priority

Outlook for institutional business next two years?

Asked by Rashmi Shetty, Dolat Capital

Provided a clear growth expectation (flattish).

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And then last question on institutional business, you know, what is really changing in the entire business? ... how should we actually see this for, you know, next two years?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
We can expect it to be a flattish kind of growth for the institution business.
Answered High priority

Strategy to improve growth in cardiovascular segment?

Asked by Sudarshan Padmanabhan, JM Financial PMS

Explained specific levers: new launches and CRM activities.

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So can you talk a little bit more about what we can do to improve the growth, specifically in the cardiovascular space, which has been a little lower than what we had expected?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
One is new product launches. ... And second is just to gain market share by way of increasing more CRM activities... we should be able to once again record faster growth compared to the industry.
Answered Medium priority

Will Ajanta acquire brands or divisions?

Asked by Sudarshan Padmanabhan, JM Financial PMS

Confirmed openness to acquisitions without specifics.

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Do you think, you know, if as a strategy, you would be looking to acquire certain brands, well-known brands or certain divisions to accentuate your, you know, already strong presence in the domestic market?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
Certainly, we are always on the lookout for suitable, brand acquisition targets and also opportunities. ... Inorganic growth is most welcome for us.
Answered High priority

Sustainability of 27-28% EBITDA margins and Red Sea risk?

Asked by Sudarshan Padmanabhan, JM Financial PMS

Quantified freight impact and stated no material margin risk.

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Number one, is going forward, I mean, this 27%-28% margins that we have been doing this year, how do you see the sustainability of it, and is there a risk in terms of transportation costs moving substantially with this issue to the Red Sea?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
The freight can go up by 0.5%, overall, so which can translate into around INR 30-35 crore increase cost as compared to the current year. ... we don't see as materially impacting whatever is there.
Answered High priority

Chantix launch timeline and US price erosion?

Asked by Sudarshan Padmanabhan, JM Financial PMS

Provided specific timeline for Chantix and confirmed lower erosion.

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With respect to the U.S., I mean, are we... You know, when do we expect Chantix to be launched? And are we also seeing the base business erosion being lower?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
The price erosion has slowed down. ... we are looking at a Q1 of the next year launch for the Chantix.
Answered Medium priority

Impact of anti-malarial vaccine on Ajanta's business?

Asked by Aman Kumar Singh

Gave a clear timeframe and conclusion of no meaningful impact.

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One is on, have we taken the impact of, you know, launch of anti-malarial vaccine in Africa? So like, what impact it is going to have on our business?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
Next, 3-5 years, we don't see the vaccines to be having a meaningful impact on the anti-malarial market in Africa.
Answered Medium priority

Why not deploy cash more meaningfully instead of dividends?

Asked by Aman Kumar Singh

Explained cash usage rationale and lack of suitable acquisition targets.

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We have so much cash, which we are actually giving back to the shareholders in terms of a very hefty dividend. But can't this cash be deployed in a more meaningful manner by, you know, either organically expanding or inorganically expanding the business?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
The only way we can use the cash is only for the acquisitions. ... we don't have any candidate for which we would like to keep the cash in the company.
Answered High priority

Cardiac underperformance: NLEM impact or market share loss?

Asked by Harsh Bhatia, Bandhan AMC

Attributed impact to both NLEM and competition, with specifics.

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Would you say that there is some level of market share loss across, statins? Or would you say that majority of the impact continues to be at the NLEM level?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
Major impact is because of the NLEM, price reductions that have happened. But, also, ... competitive intensity in the marketplace has increased... there is some small bit of maybe insignificant, market loss happening.
Answered High priority

R&D spend and ANDA filing plans?

Asked by Kunal Randeria, Axis Capital

Provided specific ANDA filing targets and R&D spend outlook.

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Now that the US outlook is slightly better ... are you planning to increase your R&D and filing going ahead?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
Next year, we are taking the target of 8-12 ANDAs. ... There'll be a marginal increase in the R&D spend, but probably percentage-wise, it should remain around the same of the current year.
Partial answer High priority

Risk to margins reaching 30% in a couple of years?

Asked by Kunal Randeria, Axis Capital

Identified risks but avoided committing to a specific margin target or timeline.

no specific timelinedeclined to give forward-looking outlook
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So what is the risk to your margin going to 30%, in a couple of years' time?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
U.S. price erosion is one unknown variable ... Second could be institution business ... Going forward also, we believe that in the coming years, it should inch up.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Asia full year growth low teens 12% 14% Understated vs filing
Africa full year growth mid to high single digits 7% 14% Understated vs filing
India business FY24 guidance low double digits 12-13% 12.5% 14% Matches filing
EBITDA margin guidance 27% ±1% for FY24 27% 28% Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.