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HINDUNILVR Consumer 22 Oct 2024

Hindunilvr Ltd — Q2 FY25

HUL reported a muted quarter with 2% underlying sales growth (3% volume growth) in a sluggish FMCG environment.

neutral medium
Revenue ₹15,319 Cr +2%
EBITDA
PAT -2%
EBITDA Margin 23.8%
Duration 90 min
Read Time 1 min read

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2-Minute Summary

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HUL reported a muted quarter with 2% underlying sales growth (3% volume growth) in a sluggish FMCG environment. Revenue stood at INR 15,319 crore, while EBITDA margin remained healthy at 23.8%. PAT before exceptional items declined 2% due to a one-off tax credit in the base. Home care and beauty & wellbeing delivered high single-digit growth, but personal care declined 5% and foods & refreshment was subdued. Management highlighted early signs of recovery in soaps post-Stratos technology launch and expects low single-digit price growth in the near term. The ice cream business is being separated to sharpen focus. Risks include persistent commodity inflation (palm oil, tea) and muted urban demand. The company maintains its margin guidance and expects stable demand trends.

Key Numbers

Underlying Volume Growth (UVG) 3%
+3pp YoY

Underlying volume growth of 3% in Q2 FY25, driven by home care and beauty & wellbeing.

MAT Business Winning 60%+
Ahead of Dec 2024 target

Market share gains accelerated, with MAT business winning crossing 60% in September, ahead of schedule.

A&P Spend as % of Sales 9.5%
-100bps YoY

A&P spend was 9.5% of sales, lower than typical 10.5%, due to phasing and digital shift.

Digital Media Share 45%
Increasing

45% of working media now spent on digital, reflecting ongoing shift in media mix.

What Changed vs Last Quarter

Comparing Q2 FY25 vs Q1 FY25
3 new guidance3 dropped4 new risk4 risk resolved
NEW
Low single-digit price growth expected in near term

Management expects low single-digit price growth in the coming quarters due to commodity inflation, while maintaining competitive price-value equation.

NEW
Ice cream business separation by end of FY25

Board approved separation of ice cream business; mode (sale or demerger) to be decided by end of the year, with listing expected.

NEW
Full-year effective tax rate marginally above 26%

ETR for H1 was 26.1%; full-year ETR expected to be marginally above 26%.

UPDATED
EBITDA margin to be maintained at current healthy levels

Management aims to keep EBITDA margin at current ~23.8% levels, with some basis points fluctuation, through productivity savings and calibrated pricing.

DROPPED
Near-zero pricing in short term, low single-digit positive by end of FY25

Excluding one-off credit in Q2 FY24 base, intrinsic price growth expected near zero in short term, turning low single-digit positive by year-end.

DROPPED
Modest margin expansion in medium term via mix and operating leverage

Medium-term margin expansion driven by premiumization (300 bps improvement in premium mix over 3 years) and operating leverage from volume growth.

DROPPED
Market share breadth to reach 60% by end of calendar year

MAT business winning metric expected to return to 60% levels by end of calendar year, with last 3-month metric already at ~55%.

NEW RISK
Commodity inflation pressure

Crude palm oil and tea prices rose 10% and 25% YoY respectively, impacting gross margins. Management is taking calibrated price increases but full pass-through may not be possible.

NEW RISK
Muted urban demand and slow rural recovery

Urban growth moderated, while rural recovery is gradual. Management noted no further acceleration in FMCG growth, which could pressure volume growth.

NEW RISK
Personal care segment decline persists

Personal care declined 5% with low single-digit volume decline. Despite formulation changes and innovation, recovery may take a couple more quarters.

NEW RISK
Tea downgradation trend may not reverse quickly

Despite 25% tea inflation, downgradation to loose tea persisted in Q2. Management expects reversal but timing is uncertain.

RISK GONE
Tea price inflation could impact margins

Tea prices are currently inflationary due to harsh summer impacting produce; full impact depends on monsoon season.

RISK GONE
Rural recovery may be slower than expected

Despite green shoots, rural growth on a 2-year CAGR still lags urban; employment, real wages, and food inflation could delay recovery.

RISK GONE
Competitive intensity in beauty and personal care

Analyst raised concern about competitive activity in beauty; management acknowledged intense competition but expressed confidence in portfolio transformation.

RISK GONE
Potential margin pressure from commodity volatility

If commodity prices rise, especially palm oil, margins could be impacted despite Stratos technology providing some insulation.

🤫 Topics management stopped discussing

Price growth to be near flat or marginally negative in next 2 quarters

Mentioned in Q1 FY24, Q2 FY24

Management expects price growth to turn marginally negative in the near term if current commodity prices hold.

Resurgence of small players in mass segments

Mentioned in Q1 FY24, Q2 FY24

Small and regional players are growing faster in tea and detergent bars, pressuring HUL's market share in those pockets.

Management Guidance

G

Low single-digit price growth expected in near term

Management expects low single-digit price growth in the coming quarters due to commodity inflation, while maintaining competitive price-value equation.

Management guidance revenue
G

EBITDA margin to be maintained at current healthy levels

Management aims to keep EBITDA margin at current ~23.8% levels, with some basis points fluctuation, through productivity savings and calibrated pricing.

Management guidance margins
G

Ice cream business separation by end of FY25

Board approved separation of ice cream business; mode (sale or demerger) to be decided by end of the year, with listing expected.

Management guidance other
G

Full-year effective tax rate marginally above 26%

ETR for H1 was 26.1%; full-year ETR expected to be marginally above 26%.

Management guidance other

Key Risks

R

Commodity inflation pressure

Crude palm oil and tea prices rose 10% and 25% YoY respectively, impacting gross margins. Management is taking calibrated price increases but full pass-through may not be possible.

high · management_commentary
R

Muted urban demand and slow rural recovery

Urban growth moderated, while rural recovery is gradual. Management noted no further acceleration in FMCG growth, which could pressure volume growth.

medium · management_commentary
R

Personal care segment decline persists

Personal care declined 5% with low single-digit volume decline. Despite formulation changes and innovation, recovery may take a couple more quarters.

medium · analyst_question
R

Tea downgradation trend may not reverse quickly

Despite 25% tea inflation, downgradation to loose tea persisted in Q2. Management expects reversal but timing is uncertain.

medium · analyst_question

Notable Quotes

Our MAT business winning number has already crossed 60% in September, ahead of our early estimate of December 2024.
Rohit Jawa · Managing Director and CEO
We are now taking calibrated price increases. Given our assessment that this price increase is here to stay, we are now taking calibrated price increases.
Rohit Jawa · Managing Director and CEO
We have applied for more than twenty patents, and we do believe that with that we will have basically a formulation which will be very tight in terms of its development and in terms of proprietary nature.
Ritesh Tiwari · CFO

Frequently Asked Questions

What was Hindunilvr's revenue in Q2 FY25?

Hindunilvr reported revenue of ₹15,319 Cr in Q2 FY25, representing a +2% change compared to the same quarter last year.

What guidance did Hindunilvr management give for FY26?

Low single-digit price growth expected in near term: Management expects low single-digit price growth in the coming quarters due to commodity inflation, while maintaining competitive price-value equation. EBITDA margin to be maintained at current healthy levels: Management aims to keep EBITDA margin at current ~23.8% levels, with some basis points fluctuation, through productivity savings and calibrated pricing. Ice cream business separation by end of FY25: Board approved separation of ice cream business; mode (sale or demerger) to be decided by end of the year, with listing expected. Full-year effective tax rate marginally above 26%: ETR for H1 was 26.1%; full-year ETR expected to be marginally above 26%.

What are the key risks for Hindunilvr in FY26?

Key risks include Commodity inflation pressure — Crude palm oil and tea prices rose 10% and 25% YoY respectively, impacting gross margins. Management is taking calibrated price increases but full pass-through may not be possible.; Muted urban demand and slow rural recovery — Urban growth moderated, while rural recovery is gradual. Management noted no further acceleration in FMCG growth, which could pressure volume growth.; Personal care segment decline persists — Personal care declined 5% with low single-digit volume decline. Despite formulation changes and innovation, recovery may take a couple more quarters.; Tea downgradation trend may not reverse quickly — Despite 25% tea inflation, downgradation to loose tea persisted in Q2. Management expects reversal but timing is uncertain..

Did Hindunilvr meet its previous quarter's guidance?

Of 2 tracked promises, management 0 met, 0 close, 2 missed.

Where can I read the full Hindunilvr Q2 FY25 concall transcript?

The full earnings conference call transcript or source release is available on the linked source material. This page provides an AI-generated summary with filing verification status shown on the financial stats.