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AJANTPHARM Diversified 14 Aug 2024

Ajanta Pharma Limited — Q1 FY25

Ajanta Pharma delivered a strong Q1 FY25 with revenue of INR 1,145 crore (+12% YoY) and EBITDA of INR 330 crore (+22% YoY), driven by branded generics growth of 17%.

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Revenue ₹1,145 Cr +12%
EBITDA ₹330 Cr +22%
PAT ₹246 Cr +18%
EBITDA Margin 29%
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Questions answered91%
Questions audited11
Evaded / deflected0
Numbers vs filingContradicted
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Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Partial answer High priority

Revenue trend for Africa branded generic business

Asked by Abdulkader Puranwala, ICICI Securities

Gave historical average and blended guidance but not a specific trend for Africa alone.

gave historical average but not specific forward trendreframed to blended guidance
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So going ahead, you know, what is the kind of revenue trend rate we should see in this particular segment?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
our average rate was around INR 155 crore to INR 160 crore. As I think we've given the guidance, for the blended branded generics business across India and across all the international markets, we are looking to post a mid-double-digit growth.
Partial answer Medium priority

Measures taken to improve working capital

Asked by Abdulkader Puranwala, ICICI Securities

Mentioned improvement in receivables but no details on specific measures or policy changes.

no specific measures or policy changes mentioned
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would you like to highlight some measures what you've taken to cut down on your working capital or some change in policy which has led to this kind of an improvement?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
the receivable is something where we have been able to achieve some improvement, especially on the U.S. side. And this is where we are getting reflected in the cash accrual.
Answered High priority

Reason for conservative gross margin guidance

Asked by Abdulkader Puranwala, ICICI Securities

Provided specific reason for conservative guidance: potential mix shift.

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any reason why we are being little conservative here on guiding for the gross margins when we're already about the threshold as compared to what we are guiding?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
the contribution of branded generic of 77% may reduce as we go forward, with higher contribution from U.S. or institutional business. So in that case, this variation can take place.
Answered Medium priority

Employee expense run rate going forward

Asked by Tushar Manudhane, Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Confirmed the analyst's estimate.

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You should be broadly INR 250 crore ± per quarter sort of an employee expense in the coming quarters?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
You are right.
Answered High priority

What is holding back better EBITDA margins?

Asked by Tushar Manudhane, Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Explained that low expenses in Q1 will normalize, keeping margins in range.

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So what is holding us back, for, you know, the forthcoming quarters or full year et cetera, in the time from having a better profitability or the better margins?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
the expenses were very low in the first quarter. I think as we go along, the expenses will pick up, the other expenses. So the, in that case, our expectation is that the EBITDA margin should be in this range or ±1%.
Answered Low priority

Trade business revenue for India this quarter

Asked by Tushar Manudhane, Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Provided exact figure.

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And so how much was the trade business for the quarter in India?
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
it was INR 41 crore, this quarter, as against INR 36 crore in the last year, same quarter.
Answered High priority

Price erosion trend in US base business

Asked by Tushar Manudhane, Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Clearly stated price erosion is stable at high single digit.

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how are you seeing the base business in, as far as U.S. is concerned, is the price erosion sort of stable at, say, mid-single-digit, or is getting higher?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
price erosion is stable. It remains to be in the high single digit. There is no aggressive price erosions or any kind of kinks are there.
Answered High priority

Is Africa growth this quarter due to channel filling?

Asked by Gagan Thareja, ASK Investment Managers

Confirmed spillover from previous quarter.

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Is there something of a similar nature in this quarter?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
this quarter looks a bit elevated because some of the sales of the last quarter got factored in, it got accounted in this quarter.
Answered High priority

Mid-teens growth across all branded generic markets?

Asked by Gagan Thareja, ASK Investment Managers

Clarified that guidance is for emerging markets only, not India.

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will it be mid-teens across all the three markets, India, Africa, and Asia, or are we, you know, sort of seeing different numbers?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
We are giving the mid-teen growth guidance for the branded generics in emerging markets, which is Africa plus Asia. That does not include India.
Answered High priority

Impact of freight costs on margins

Asked by Gagan Thareja, ASK Investment Managers

Quantified the expected impact.

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Are freight costs in any way, you know, impacting you in 1Q, or do you foresee them impacting you going ahead on a year-on-year basis?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
we would be adversely impacted by INR 30 crore in the freight cost as compared to the full year last year and current year last year.
Answered Medium priority

Sales force addition plans for this year

Asked by Gagan Thareja, ASK Investment Managers

Provided specific percentages and timing.

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In terms of sales force addition, what are your, you know, planned additions this year in India and the other markets?
Yogesh Agrawal, Managing Director
In India, there is no increase in the sales force we are estimating. In the emerging markets, we could have an increase of the sales force of about 8%-10%.
Answered Medium priority

Capacity utilization across plants

Asked by Gagan Thareja, ASK Investment Managers

Provided a clear range.

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And finally, what is your capacity utilization? You know, a broad sort of indicative number.
Arvind Agrawal, CFO
About 60%-65% across the plants.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Africa branded generic average revenue INR 155-160 crore per quarter ₹155 cr ₹1,145 cr Understated vs filing
Trade business revenue INR 41 crore in Q1 ₹41 cr ₹1,145 cr Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.