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ABFRL Diversified 15 May 2024

Aditya Birla Fashion and Retail Limited — Q4 FY24

ABFRL reported Q4 FY24 consolidated revenue of INR 3,407 crore, up 18% YoY, driven by new businesses (Ethnic, TMRW, Reebok).

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Revenue ₹1,575 Cr +18%
EBITDA ₹377 Cr
EBITDA Margin 2% +300bps
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Questions answered83%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected2
Numbers vs filingContradicted
Claim Ledger

Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Answered High priority

Is Pantaloons network recalibration done? Store addition expectations?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management confirmed the recalibration is a one-time action and gave a specific store addition target.

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Now, you seem to have taken up a network recalibration in this format in FY 2024. Is this calibration done, and what is the store addition expectation, going forward?
Sangeeta Tanwani, Director and CEO, Pantaloons
It's a one-time action that we have taken... we will continue to open stores in the future... about 25,30 stores this year, as we have committed in the past.
Answered High priority

What were gross store additions in FY24 for Pantaloons?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management provided specific numbers for store openings and closures.

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So, what was the gross store addition in FY 2024, if you could help me with that number?
Sangeeta Tanwani, Director and CEO, Pantaloons
So we opened about 29 stores during the course of the year, and overall, we shut about 43 stores during the year.
Evasive Medium priority

What is Style Up's revenue in FY24 and growth plans?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management did not provide the requested revenue figure, only store count and qualitative feedback.

no revenue number given
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Any numbers you could share with us as to what is the revenue this format had in FY 2024? And again, any growth plans here, and what is the initial feedback that you have for this format?
Sangeeta Tanwani, Director and CEO, Pantaloons
We have about, somewhere between 25,28 stores, as we close the year... we feel confident today as we exited the financial year, that we have a model, which is economically viable.
Answered Medium priority

Will Style Up be part of demerged ABFRL?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management gave a clear yes/no answer.

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this will be a part of the demerged ABFRL?
Ashish Dikshit, Managing Director
Yes, it will be part of the ABFRL, along with Pantaloons.
Answered High priority

What is Tasva's growth trajectory and store expansion plan?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management provided revenue milestone and specific store addition target.

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What is the sort of growth trajectory here that you are looking for? I believe earlier there was a very large store addition pipeline. Does that pipeline still exist?
Ashish Dikshit, Managing Director
We've crossed INR 100 crore with this. In the immediate short term, we look to double it, in terms of revenue. The pipeline of stores is also aligned with that... we'll add about 30+ stores this year.
Answered High priority

Timeline for full consolidation of TCNS and demerger?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management gave specific dates and timelines.

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Last question really is on timelines of full consolidation for TCNS, where are we? And, hence, post that, what all is pending for the demerger really to happen?
Jagdish Bajaj, CFO
As far as merger is concerned, our court-convened AGM will be held on 5th of June. On another three months' time, we will be able to merge TCNS with us. On demerger... we plan to complete this exercise by end of Q3 or in last quarter of FY 2024, 2025.
Declined High priority

Can you provide pro forma PAT for the two verticals?

Asked by Garima Mishra, Kotak Securities

Management declined to provide the requested profit figures.

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Any possibility of giving us some indication of pro forma profits of these two verticals also for FY 2024?
Jagdish Bajaj, CFO
I don't have readily available.
Answered High priority

What are the cost reduction initiatives this quarter?

Asked by Nihal Jham, Ambit Capital

Management detailed three specific cost reduction areas.

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For this quarter, you've mentioned about cost reduction initiatives... If you could just detail what these are, is it mainly moderation in sales and marketing spends?
Ashish Dikshit, Managing Director
The material part... was on store expenses, you saw the rationalization network... The second part really is discounting... The third part really is choosing the more profitable channel.
Answered Medium priority

What is the enhancement of Pantaloons' operating model?

Asked by Nihal Jham, Ambit Capital

Management provided specific operational improvements.

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In the presentation you mentioned about enhancement of the operating model for Pantaloons. Anything specific about what that is supposed to help with?
Ashish Dikshit, Managing Director
Sangeeta had talked about... premiumizing the proposition... But there are several other operational measures, which is the entire planning process, the markdown management, improved gross margin.
Answered High priority

What will be the blended debt next year?

Asked by Nihal Jham, Ambit Capital

Management gave specific debt numbers for both entities and a target.

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Is there a possibility to give a sense of what the blended debt could be next year? We are currently at, say, INR 2,850 crores.
Ashish Dikshit, Managing Director
The Lifestyle brands opening debt number for 1st April is about INR 900 crores... As far as the ABFRL... we'll start with a debt of about INR 1,951 crores, and we'll raise capital, and therefore we expect to be net positive at the end of this year.
Answered High priority

Why shut down many Pantaloons stores now? Any common thread?

Asked by Tejas Shah, Avendus Spark

Management explained the strategic rationale and common thread.

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Can you elaborate on strategic reasons on why we have chosen to shut down such a large number of stores now? Is it more to respond to economic scenario or more of a structural call? Any common thread among this store shutdown?
Ashish Dikshit, Managing Director
In line with that strategy, when we started to look at our network, we found that strategically there was dissonance versus some of the stores... And that's the one-time correction that we took... our focus would be on larger towns.
Answered High priority

What was LTL growth for lifestyle retail in Q4 and FY24?

Asked by Devanshu Bansal, Emkay Global

Management provided LTL growth and discount reduction specifics.

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Just wanted to check if you could call out the LTL growth for retail segment in Q4 and for full year FY 2024.
Vishak Kumar, Director and CEO, Lifestyle Business
We were about flat if you were to look at LTL. But what you should look at it is in light of significant discount reductions in H2, especially in Q4, where we were able to bring down discounts by... almost about 5 percentage points.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Tasva crossed INR 100 crore in sales ₹100 cr ₹1,575 cr Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.