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DIXON Diversified 10 Aug 2023

Dixon Technologies (India) Limited — Q1 FY24

Dixon Technologies reported a solid Q1 FY24 with consolidated revenue of INR 3,274 crore (+15% YoY), EBITDA of INR 135 crore (+34% YoY), and PAT of INR 57 crore (+28% YoY).

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Revenue ₹3,272 Cr +15%
EBITDA ₹135 Cr +34%
PAT ₹67 Cr +28%
EBITDA Margin 4% +60bps
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✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered73%
Questions audited11
Evaded / deflected1
Numbers vs filingContradicted
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Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Partial answer High priority

Reason for margin dip in Q1 across segments

Asked by Dhananjai Bagrodia, ASK Investment Managers Limited

Acknowledged seasonality but did not quantify the margin dip or provide segment details.

no specific margin breakdownattributed to seasonality without numbers
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Wanted to ask you regarding your margins, Q1 Q across segments, we've seen a margin dip. Any reason for that?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
There's no particular reason... Q1 is generally slants interest, slightly slower product for the consumer durables business. It's majorly an investment goes into the AC business, the cooler business. It starts to pick up in Q2.
Partial answer High priority

Roadmap for Xiaomi manufacturing, volumes, CapEx, and Google Pixel

Asked by Rahul Gajare, Haitong Securities

Provided Xiaomi volumes but evaded on Google Pixel and ramp-up timeline.

declined to share Google Pixel detailsno timeline for ramp-up to 1 million
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After your recent tie-up with Xiaomi, could you discuss the roadmap for manufacturing for Xiaomi in terms of volume and CapEx? Also, any discussion with Google Pixel?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
On Xiaomi side, manufacturing creation is on. Target to start production mid-September. Initial plan to reach 500,000 per month, then scale to 1 million. On Google Pixel, confidentiality clauses, difficult to share details.
Partial answer High priority

Opportunity size from Itel and scope of manufacturing

Asked by Aditya Bhartia, Investec

Gave broad context but did not confirm exact volumes or assembly depth.

no clear volume commitmentvague on manufacturing scope
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How large is the opportunity between 0.8 million-1 million units per month? Are you going to do assembly including PCB assembly or more of a problem?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
It's computer template. Itel is the largest manufacturer of PC phones in India. 100% of PC phones and smartphone next year. Large facility around 5,000 phones.
Evasive Medium priority

Reason for Xiaomi shift from competitor to Dixon

Asked by Natasha Jain, Nirmal Bang

Did not address whether favorable terms were offered; gave a vague combination.

no specifics on termsgeneric answer
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I want to understand, at an EMS level, is it just a broader diversification or are you offering favorable terms?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
I think it's a combination of very many things. It's a combination of a better commercial case, and also between capability and delivery.
Answered High priority

Demand environment and order books for festive season

Asked by Ankur Sharma, HDFC Life

Provided clear segment-wise demand outlook without evasion.

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How are you seeing the overall industry and your order books as we get into festive? What is the feedback from key customers?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
It's a mixed bag. TV and lighting demand flattened. Washing machine order book extremely healthy. Mobile order book extremely healthy. Wearable devices demand extremely good.
Answered High priority

Which customers fall under PLI scheme?

Asked by Dhruv Jain, Ambit Capital

Clearly identified which customers are PLI-eligible.

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Now that you've signed multiple customers, just wanted to understand which customer would be in the ambit of PLI scheme and which would not be?
Saurabh Gupta, CFO
Everything will be part of the PLI scheme except for the Samsung smartphone business that we do. Apart from that, everything falls under the PLI.
Partial answer High priority

Mobile revenue guidance and Xiaomi annual volumes

Asked by Kshitiz Jain, Morgan Stanley

Declined revenue guidance but gave volume ramp-up plan for Xiaomi.

no revenue guidancevolumes conditional on execution
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For the full year, are you planning the same INR 8,000 odd crores for this year? Can you comment on Xiaomi's volumes?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
We don't give any specific guidance for mobile as a vertical. On Xiaomi, starting with 500,000 a month, increasing to 0.8-1 million a month, linked to execution.
Answered High priority

Outlook for lighting segment and pricing erosion

Asked by Bhoomika Nair, DAM Capital Advisors Limited

Provided specific price erosion percentage and growth outlook for new categories.

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Just wanted to check on lighting. Is the pricing erosion still continuing? How is the volume growth?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
Market subdued. Price erosion of almost 30% on LED bulbs. Shifting to downlighters and ropes/strips. Ropes/strips can be 80-90% growth business.
Answered Medium priority

Competitive intensity in TV and lighting, and market share loss

Asked by Abhishek Singh, DSP

Acknowledged competitive pressure and quantified impact as small.

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Can you talk about competitive intensity in TV and lighting? Have we lost any market share or significant customer shift?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
No significant loss in TV. Some competitive intensity from a multinational. In lighting, competitive intensity increased, small impact on market share on tube lights.
Answered High priority

Margin profile for new mobile production ramp-up

Asked by Alok Deshpande, Nuvama Institutional Equities

Provided specific EBITDA margin range for new mobile business.

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Will the new mobile production be at similar margins as current or lower/higher? Any color?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
The margin profile of the business will be somewhere in the range of 2.3%-2.7%, something like that.
Answered Medium priority

Status of JV with Tinno Group and timeline

Asked by Amar Singhania, Nippon India Asset Management

Clearly stated the regulatory hurdle and that production has not started.

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Regarding the JV with Tinno Group, how is that panning out? Have we started manufacturing? Timeline?
Atul Lall, Managing Director and Vice Chairman
Filer application to government for BIS Phase 3 approval. Still not got that through. Waiting for clearance to start the project.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Lighting margin expanded 110 bps YoY 110 bps 60 bps Overstated vs filing
New mobile margin profile 2.3%-2.7% 2.5% 4% Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.