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Coromandel International Limited — Q3 FY24

Coromandel's Q3 FY24 results were sharply down YoY, with consolidated revenue of ₹5,523 crore (-33.8%), EBITDA of ₹358 crore (-54.2%), and PAT of ₹288 crore (-69.3%).

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Revenue ₹5,464 Cr -33.8%
EBITDA ₹358 Cr -54.2%
PAT ₹228 Cr -69.3%
EBITDA Margin 6% -280bps
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Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Answered High priority

Impact of new government margin guidelines on Coromandel's profitability.

Asked by Sumant Kumar, Motilal Oswal Financial Services Ltd.

Management clearly explained the new margin guidelines and their categorization.

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So, can you talk about the price fertilizer, non-urea fertilizer and the price control, and government is trying to fix profit margin also...
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
The government has issued an office memorandum... integrated manufacturers will be able to get a 12% margin... manufacturers who do not have backward integration... could get about a 10%, and importers about 8%.
Answered High priority

Inventory loss and phosphoric acid capacity expansion.

Asked by Sumant Kumar, Motilal Oswal Financial Services Ltd.

Management provided specific numbers for capacity addition and inventory loss.

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And the second question is phosphoric acid. Can you guide us how much capacity we are going to increase and any inventory loss in this...?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
On the PA capacity, we are looking at, adding about 650 tons per day capacity... inventory, hit is concerned for the quarter... in the range of about INR 30 crore or so.
Answered High priority

Clarification on Coromandel's classification under new guidelines.

Asked by Arjun Khanna, Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Company

Management confirmed the classification directly.

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Just to clarify, with the latest guidelines, Coromandel will be treated as an integrated manufacturer? Would that be the right understanding?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
Yeah, because we have both granulation as well as phosphoric, sulfuric plants here, we would be an integrated manufacturer.
Partial answer High priority

Impact of unreasonable profit clause on previous year.

Asked by Arjun Khanna, Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Company

Management gave an initial assessment but deferred final conclusion.

initial assessment onlydeferred to year-end
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Can you confirm on the call that we would have no impact from that aspect?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
This guideline is effective first of April 2023... my initial assessment is it's not likely to have an impact for the company.
Answered Medium priority

Treatment of retail subsidiary margins under new guidelines.

Asked by Arjun Khanna, Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Company

Management clarified that retail margins are included in overall margin.

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Gromor, given it's a subsidiary, would it be subsumed in that 12%, that's considered separately as a dealer, so that impact would be plus?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
It will be taken as the same, and the margin that we make on the sales will be considered as the overall margin for the company.
Partial answer Medium priority

Impact of cash-rich balance sheet on margin calculation.

Asked by Vishnu Kumar, Avendus Spark

Management acknowledged the point but minimized its practical impact.

acknowledged theoretically but downplayed impact
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Having large cash on balance sheet, would be a detriment to a nutrient or a fertilizer player. Would that be a right understanding?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
One can interpret it that way... I don't think it's going to impact to a very great extent, considering the current situation.
Answered High priority

Whether 12% PBT margin is on actual or normalized costs.

Asked by Dheeresh Pathak, WhiteOak Capital

Management gave a clear one-word answer.

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Is it going to be on actual basis, or is it going to be on a normalized basis?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
It will be on actual.
Answered High priority

Why current margins are below 12% PBT despite flexibility.

Asked by Dheeresh Pathak, WhiteOak Capital

Management explained multiple factors including subsidy rates and demand.

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The only reason we are not able to increase MRP is because it is an election year period. Is that the only difference?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
Not every year is going to be the same... Last quarter has been tough. The NBS rates have been sharply corrected... there is no point in increasing the MRP and not being able to sell.
Answered High priority

Phosphoric acid capacity and backward integration details.

Asked by Bharat Sheth, Quest Investment Advisors Pvt Ltd

Management provided specific capacity numbers and remaining import needs.

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How much capacity have we planned for this phosphoric plant... how much still we need to have a backward integration scope is there?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
The phosphoric plant that we are looking at is a 200,000-ton capacity per annum... after this plant comes in place, we will still have about 200,000 tons or so, which we might have to import.
Partial answer Medium priority

Historical average margins vs new guideline ceilings.

Asked by Gagan Thareja, ASK Investment Managers

Management avoided giving specific historical margin numbers.

declined industry comparisongave qualitative answer
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What in your experience have been the cyclical average margins that Coromandel would have seen...?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
I may not be able to answer you at the industry level, but if you look at the performance of the company over a period in time, I don't think that companies have hit this line of cap at all.
Answered High priority

Progress on crop protection business and Dhaksha drones.

Asked by Ankur Periwal, Axis Capital Ltd.

Management provided volume growth and specific order book number.

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Your thoughts on both B2B as well as B2C growth, and as well as how is the progress going on Dhaksha side?
Raghuram Devarakonda, Executive Director; Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
In Q3, we grew handsomely, in volume terms... we have close to INR 300 crore of an order book for Dhaksha at this point in time.
Answered High priority

Reason for stark reduction in per ton margins in Q3.

Asked by Tarun, Old Bridge Asset Management

Management explained the factors clearly.

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What drove such a stark reduction in the per ton margins?
Jayashree Satagopan, President and CFO
The impact of channel inventory has been taken in Q2 numbers, but the sales in Q3, the subsidy realization is also very low... raw material prices slightly going up.