Cipla Ltd — Q1 FY24
Cipla delivered a strong Q1 FY24 with 18% YoY revenue growth to INR 6,329 crore, driven by record performance in India (12% growth) and the US ($222 million, +43% YoY).
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What drove QoQ US improvement? Revlimid contribution?
Asked by Saion Mukherjee, Nomura Securities
CEO directly stated Revlimid contribution not significant and attributed growth to base business.
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this quarter-on-quarter improvement in the US, how, what do you ascribe this to? Is there a big Revlimid contribution, and in the next few quarters, you know, how we should think about it?
I don't think the Revlimid contribution, quarter-on-quarter is significant, Sayan. I think the base business has also grown very impressively between quarter four and quarter one.
Pipeline peptides and Abraxane bottleneck?
Asked by Saion Mukherjee, Nomura Securities
Answered Abraxane specifically but gave no details on peptide potential.
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How should we think about the potential of this peptides, and also particularly on Abraxane, is the bottleneck just around the site, or are there any queries on the file that we need to address there?
on Abraxane, we have received notification that, the only thing pending on the file is the site.
What is guided CapEx for FY24?
Asked by Rohan Vora, Purnartha Investment Advisers
Provided specific percentage and range for CapEx.
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what would be the guided CapEx for FY 2024 for Cipla?
We said about 5% of the revenue, 4%-5%. Somewhere in the range of INR 1,000-INR 1,500 per annum is what you could take as the CapEx.
Split between maintenance and growth CapEx?
Asked by Rohan Vora, Purnartha Investment Advisers
Provided a 50/50 split after initial reluctance.
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What part of this CapEx would be attributable to solely maintenance... Even a broad range would be fine, workable, just a broad range would also do. What would be the maintenance and the normal CapEx split?
You can take about 50/50, roughly, of maintenance and growth.
What drives US growth besides Revlimid?
Asked by Prashant, Motilal Oswal Financial Services
Listed multiple factors driving growth without evasion.
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What is driving the growth in terms of? Is it because the competitors are having the regulatory issue, and that's why we are able to gain market? Or is it because the price erosion itself is getting limited?
I think it's a combination of various factors. Price compression is obviously lesser than before. At the same time, we are seeing... a rebalancing of the supply chain happening.
What changed to raise EBITDA margin guidance to 23%?
Asked by Prashant, Motilal Oswal Financial Services
Attributed to good Q1 but did not detail specific drivers.
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Compared to previous, in the previous quarter guidance of 22%, and now we are talking for 23%. Broadly, what has changed, you know, that gives the confidence of 23% of the demand?
We've had a good quarter, in this quarter one, so it gives us some confidence that we can take up that target of delivering 23% for the year.
Advair amendment type and timeline?
Asked by Kunal Dhamesha, Macquarie
Clearly stated it will be a major amendment and not yet filed.
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I believe that we would need to be filing some amendment to our initial ANDA. Some color as to whether that would be a major amendment or minor amendment, and have you already filed it with the US FDA?
No, it will be expected to be filed. We are still in the transfer stage right now. Yes, the chances are it will be a major amendment.
Is Advair opportunity beyond FY25?
Asked by Damayanti Kerai, HSBC
Gave a clear timeline: not beyond FY25.
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Broadly, should we assume this opportunity is now beyond FY 2025?
No, not beyond FY 2025. Beyond this year, if Indore is not cleared, yes, but not beyond FY 2025.
Is US base of $210-215M before new launches?
Asked by Neha Manpuria, Bank of America
Confirmed the base number explicitly.
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On the US number that you mentioned, $210 million-$215 million. Just to clarify, this is the base that I should assume on top of which we add the new launches...
Yes, broadly, Neha. Broadly, yes.
How many US launches contributed to Q1 growth?
Asked by Krishnendu Saha, Quantum AMC
Provided specific numbers on launches and meaningful ones.
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how many launches did we have last year, that does contribute a high amount for this Q1 with the launches, heavy launches last year, besides the huge launches?
over the last two years, our average will be sub 10 in each year. Of the seven or eight that we have launched in the last year, my guess is that about three to four of them have been very meaningful for us.
Is US growth due to higher primary vs secondary sales?
Asked by Kunal Randeria, Nuvama
Directly denied the hypothesis with reasoning.
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Would one of the factors be higher primary sales than secondary sales? By that, I mean, wholesalers accumulating more stock because of fear of shortage.
No, I don't think so, because our, you know, we do our regular audit processes for chargebacks, and inventory in trade is an input into that validation, and we haven't seen inventory holding going up.
What is field force split chronic vs acute in India?
Asked by Abdulkader Puranwala, ICICI Securities
Provided clear percentage split.
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Would it be possible to quantify the amount of field force, what do we have on the chronic versus on the acute side?
I think about 80%-- 75%-80% of our work, of our people are on the chronic side. 20% or so are on the acute side.