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BRITANNIA Consumer 05 Aug 2024

Britannia Industries Ltd — Q1 FY25

Britannia reported Q1 FY25 revenue of INR 4,130 crore, up 4% YoY, with operating profit of INR 680 crore (16.5% margin), up 10% YoY.

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Revenue ₹4,250 Cr +4%
EBITDA ₹680 Cr +10%
PAT ₹505 Cr +14%
EBITDA Margin 18%
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✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered67%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected2
Numbers vs filingContradicted
Claim Ledger

Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Partial answer High priority

Pricing and market share in cheese business

Asked by Abneesh Roy, Nuvama

Gave directional share but no exact number; pricing actions vague.

no specific market share number givendeferred to future
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do you need to work further on the pricing aspect? ... would you have a market share in cheese?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
pricing, we've taken a few actions ... our premium is slightly lower ... The market share on cheese, we are very small ... we are just about in double digits.
Answered Medium priority

Impact of hot beverages, travel, and elections on biscuit demand

Asked by Abneesh Roy, Nuvama

Directly addressed each factor with clear statements.

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in Q1, there were two headwinds and one tailwind for biscuit consumption ... hot beverages consumption ... hot out-of-home travel ... election rallies
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
Out-of-home, we didn't see any negative impact ... Election rallies don't, do not impact us that much ... we sailed through those this year as well.
Answered High priority

Pricing growth outlook for FY25 given commodity inflation

Asked by Avi Mehta, Macquarie

Gave specific inflation range and pricing intent.

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with the marginal inflation that you have seen in commodity costs, how would you ... share your thoughts on the FY 2025 pricing growth?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
we might have to take a little bit of pricing ... even if there is inflation, it'll probably be in the range of 4%-5%.
Evasive Medium priority

EBITDA margin level for adjacent businesses

Asked by Avi Mehta, Macquarie

Did not provide EBITDA margin; shifted to net margins qualitatively.

no number givenreframed to net margins
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would it be possible to share where do we stand at the EBITDA margin level now?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
We do not do a separate consolidation on our adjacency business level ... if you look at your net margins, they are reasonable.
Answered High priority

Price deflation trend and future pricing actions

Asked by Arnab Mitra, Goldman Sachs

Clarified deflation vs rollbacks and gave future inflation estimate.

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The deflation in pricing this quarter seems to be slightly more than last quarter ... do you see any incremental changes here going ahead?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
there is no deflation, really ... we have taken price rollbacks ... now is the time to start to consolidate ... we expect a 4%-5% inflation in the coming months.
Partial answer Medium priority

Spike in other operating income and PLI benefit

Asked by Arnab Mitra, Goldman Sachs

Explained source but did not quantify ongoing run rate.

no steady-state run rate given
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The other operating income ... very sharp spike, YoY. Is there any bunching of PLI here?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
this is for our factory in Ranjangaon ... we got some benefits from the past year.
Answered Medium priority

Status of baked snacks extruded Time Pass launch

Asked by Percy Panthaki, IIFL Securities

Clearly stated it's still in test phase.

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Recently, I saw your baked snacks, extruded Time Pass ... is this something recent? ... any kind of views on how you want to take this forward?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
This is in experimental stage ... we are doing some market tests ... it's not like a rollout across the country.
Answered Medium priority

Why extruded snacks launch is taking so long

Asked by Percy Panthaki, IIFL Securities

Explained reasons for delay without dodging.

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hasn't it been really too long for it to be in test phase? ... what is really holding us back here?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
there are two or three things ... the outside opportunity ... internal ... we don't want to do anything without really being 100% sure of success.
Evasive High priority

Target margin range going forward

Asked by Percy Panthaki, IIFL Securities

Refused to give a margin target; emphasized volume growth.

no specific target givenreframed to top-line priority
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what is the sort of margin roughly that we are targeting? Is it going to be a 19%+ number, or are we at this 18%-18.5% kind of number?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
I can't give you a pointed answer ... I would not mind if my margins stay at 16% rather than going to 18%, but it's important that we drive top line.
Partial answer Medium priority

Sustainability of volume growth and impact of heat wave

Asked by Mihir Shah, Nomura

Avoided confirming heat wave impact; gave general optimism.

did not address heat wave specifically
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is there any element of higher than usual in-home consumption due to the extreme heat wave ... do you think these volumes can sustain and inch up further?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
getting to high single digit volume growths should not be a big issue ... we will do whatever is necessary to be able to get there.
Partial answer Medium priority

Other expenses increase and margin outlook

Asked by Mihir Shah, Nomura

Attributed to ad spends but gave no numbers or margin impact.

no quantification of ad spend increaseno margin guidance
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other expenses bit ... costs have gone up. Is this largely due to higher ad spends? ... how should one think about this line item, the margins on operating level?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director
it was ad spends that we spent on ... we were able to get a bang for our buck during this quarter, with good volume growths.
Answered High priority

Focus market performance, market share gap, and revenue contribution

Asked by Binay Shukla, PhillipCapital

Provided specific share and revenue contribution numbers.

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how much there is a skill gap between you and number one player in the focus market ... what percentage of revenue is coming from your focus market?
Varun Berry, Vice Chairman and Managing Director; Vipin Kataria, Chief Commercial Officer
our focus market performance has not been great ... average contribution is about 15% odd ... number one player is still at about 50% share.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Drinks revenue expected over INR 200 crores ₹220 cr ₹4,250 cr Understated vs filing
Cheese revenue upward of INR 250 crores ₹250 cr ₹4,250 cr Understated vs filing
Total dairy business over INR 700 crores ₹700 cr ₹4,250 cr Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.