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AIA Engineering Limited — Q2 FY25

AIA Engineering reported Q2 FY25 revenue of INR 1,030 crore, down ~19% YoY, with volumes of 60,330 tons vs 77,000 tons last year.

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Revenue ₹1,030 Cr -19.1%
EBITDA ₹366 Cr -17.6%
PAT ₹257 Cr -20.5%
EBITDA Margin 35.5% +60bps
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AIA Engineering reported Q2 FY25 revenue of INR 1,030 crore, down ~19% YoY, with volumes of 60,330 tons vs 77,000 tons last year. EBITDA at INR 366 crore (margin ~35.5%) and PAT at INR 257 crore were both down ~18% and ~21% YoY respectively. The sharp volume decline is attributed to destocking by 3-4 large mining customers, supply chain disruptions (Red Sea freight/container issues), and slower conversion of new business. Management guided full-year volumes of 255,000-260,000 tons, a ~10% drop from FY24's 292,000 tons. They emphasized the weakness is cyclical, not structural, and remain optimistic on medium-term conversion opportunities exceeding 100,000 tons. CapEx of INR 250 crore continues, including a 36,000-ton grinding media expansion. Key risk: if destocking persists or new conversions fail to materialize, volumes could remain stagnant for longer.

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Quarter Snapshot

Sales Volume (Mining) 39,800 tons
-23.5% YoY

Mining sales volume in Q2 FY25 was 39,800 tons vs 52,000 tons in Q2 FY24.

Half-Year Sales Volume 120,922 tons
-20% YoY

H1 FY25 total sales volume was 120,922 tons vs 151,000 tons in H1 FY24.

Net Cash INR 3,212 crore
N/A

Net cash position after buyback payout, with small debt of INR 120 crore.

Working Capital Days 115 days
N/A

Total working capital days at 115, with raw material 55 days, WIP/finished goods 76 days, receivables 74 days.

What Changed vs Last Quarter

Comparing Q2 FY25 vs Q1 FY25
2 new guidance3 dropped4 new risk4 risk resolved
NEW
Full-year volume guidance of 255,000-260,000 tons

Management expects FY25 sales volume to be 255,000-260,000 tons, a ~10% decline from FY24's 292,000 tons, due to destocking and supply chain issues.

NEW
Conversion opportunities exceeding 100,000 tons

Management is working on several large conversion opportunities that could sum to more than six-digit tons, but conversion is taking longer than expected.

UPDATED
CapEx of INR 250 crore for FY25

CapEx includes investment in renewable power, rubber liner plant, and 36,000-ton grinding media expansion. Spending will continue over this year and next.

DROPPED
Volume guidance deferred for one quarter

Management will not provide volume guidance for FY25 until Q2 results, citing logistics uncertainty.

DROPPED
Brownfield expansion for rubber/composite liners

INR 65 crore capex to add 20,000 tons capacity for rubber and composite mill liners, commissioning by end of FY25.

DROPPED
Brazil volumes expected above 20,000 tons in 12 months

Post duty reduction, management expects Brazil volumes to exceed 20,000 tons in the next 12 months.

NEW RISK
Prolonged destocking by key customers

Several large mining customers are destocking, deferring orders to later quarters. If this continues, volumes may remain under pressure.

NEW RISK
Supply chain disruptions and high freight costs

Red Sea crisis has caused container unavailability and high shipping rates, making pricing less attractive and causing customer hesitation.

NEW RISK
Slower-than-expected conversion of new customers

Despite significant efforts, conversion of new customers from forged to chrome is taking longer, impacting volume growth.

NEW RISK
Potential need for overseas expansion due to supply chain

Management is seriously debating setting up a plant outside India to mitigate supply chain risks, which could increase costs and complexity.

RISK GONE
Logistics disruption may persist

Container shortages and high freight costs due to Red Sea crisis are delaying shipments and new customer conversions.

RISK GONE
Volume growth target at risk

Management declined to provide volume guidance for FY25, indicating uncertainty around achieving incremental volume targets.

RISK GONE
US anti-dumping investigation ongoing

The US investigation is in early stages; outcome could impact competitiveness in a key market.

RISK GONE
Customer conversion slowdown due to uncertainty

Customers are adopting a wait-and-watch approach for new conversions due to unpredictable supply chains.

🤫 Topics management stopped discussing

Brazil anti-dumping sunset review outcome

Mentioned in Q1 FY24, Q2 FY24, Q4 FY24

A petition by Magotteaux USA has initiated a US trade investigation covering 27,000 tons of exports (CY23). Outcome uncertain; could impact volumes and margins.

Long-term sustainable EBITDA margin of 23%-24%

Mentioned in Q2 FY24, Q3 FY24

Management reiterated that EBITDA margins will remain in the 20-22% range over the long term, despite near-term freight cost headwinds.

Margin normalization from elevated levels

Mentioned in Q1 FY24, Q2 FY24

Current elevated margins (34.32%) are partly due to favorable product mix and pass-through timing. Management expects margins to normalize by 3%-5% over coming quarters, which could disappoint investors expecting sustained high margins.

Slower conversion of forged to high-chrome grinding media

Mentioned in Q2 FY24, Q4 FY24

Despite a large addressable market, conversion has been slower than expected, with FY24 volumes flat. Management cites inertia and long sales cycles.

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Top guidance Full-year volume guidance of 255,000-260,000 tons

Management expects FY25 sales volume to be 255,000-260,000 tons, a ~10% decline from FY24's 292,000 tons, due to destocking and supply chain issues.

Top risk Prolonged destocking by key customers

Several large mining customers are destocking, deferring orders to later quarters.

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