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DRREDDY Diversified 26 Jul 2023

Dr. Reddy's Laboratories Limited — Q1 FY24

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Revenue ₹6,738 Cr +29%
EBITDA ₹2,137 Cr +20%
EBITDA Margin 31.7%
Duration
Read Time 1 min read

✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered58%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected3
Numbers vs filingContradicted
Claim Ledger

Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Partial answer High priority

What drove the sequential US revenue growth?

Asked by Kunal Dhamesha, Macquarie

CEO listed drivers but gave no order of magnitude or split.

no quantitative breakdown
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Would you be able to give us some color as to which were the primary driver? Was it the acquisition, was it the lenalidomide uptake?
Erez Israeli, CEO
This quarter, we had several growth engines, so it's not just in lenalidomide. We grew market share in key products... We had the Mayne acquisitions that contributed and Lena. It's a combination of all of them.
Answered Medium priority

Will reduced price erosion continue?

Asked by Kunal Dhamesha, Macquarie

CEO gave a clear near-term outlook.

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Do you see that this reduced price erosion to continue for some time, or is it more of a transitory phenomena?
Erez Israeli, CEO
I believe that in our case, we probably will see something similar also in the next coming quarter.
Partial answer Medium priority

Are supply opportunities in US sustainable?

Asked by Damayanti Kerai, HSBC

CEO described drivers but did not commit to duration beyond 'trend will continue'.

no quantificationvague on sustainability
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Can you elaborate bit more whether you are seeing lot of supply opportunities emerging in the market... Do you believe these opportunities will sustain for next two quarters?
Erez Israeli, CEO
It's a combination of timing of RFPs... Overall, let's say it's primarily a volume-based growth that based on agreements with certain customers.
Evasive High priority

How will EBITDA margins move excluding Revlimid?

Asked by Damayanti Kerai, HSBC

CEO declined to answer excluding Revlimid, stuck to overall 25% target.

refused to exclude Revlimidrepeated long-term guidance
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How do you see your EBITDA margins moving up in next two years, excluding Revlimid, if you can provide some color on it?
Erez Israeli, CEO
I'm still maintaining the long-term average of the 25%, 25%... likely that it will be above the threshold of 25%.
Evasive High priority

What was Mayne portfolio's size and profitability this quarter?

Asked by Surya Narayan Patra, PhillipCapital India Pvt Ltd

CEO did not provide size or profitability, only said next quarter will be bigger.

no numbers givendeferred to next quarter
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What is the kind of size that we would have seen this quarter out of that? Also, if you can give some clarity about the profitability of this portfolio?
Erez Israeli, CEO
We closed the deal and practically started to sell in the end of April... the contribution of Mayne will be more significant in the next quarter to come than it came in this quarter.
Declined High priority

Will lenalidomide volume share improve progressively?

Asked by Surya Narayan Patra, PhillipCapital India Pvt Ltd

CEO explicitly declined to share volume or trajectory due to agreement.

refused to share volumecited confidentiality
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Is it fair to believe this is the kind of first year number, and we should see a progressive improvement in the volume share going ahead?
Erez Israeli, CEO
I cannot share them as per our agreement. What I can say is, this kind of levels of sales of lenalidomide is likely to continue and fluctuate from quarter to quarter.
Answered Medium priority

What drove India business growth and how much from trade generics?

Asked by Neha Manpuria, Bank of America

CEO clearly stated trade generics had minimal contribution and attributed growth to brand generics.

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Was there any contribution at all of the trade generic business in the first quarter? If you could give us some color in terms of what's driving the improvement.
Erez Israeli, CEO
The trade generic did not yet contribute much because we just recently launched it. Most of the growth happened from our brand generics, our key brands.
Partial answer Medium priority

When will China contribute meaningfully to EM revenue?

Asked by Neha Manpuria, Bank of America

CEO gave a timeline but no quantitative contribution.

no specific revenue targetdeferred to FY25
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When do we see meaningful contribution start from China, or when do we see how does the step up from this level happen in the emerging market business?
Erez Israeli, CEO
We are now starting to see the results, so likely that this trend of approvals will continue. The most of the values we start to see... more significant growth in FY 2025.
Answered Medium priority

Why did trade receivables jump INR 400-450 crore?

Asked by Tushar Manudhane, Motilal Oswal Financial Services

CEO explained it as normal business growth, no channel stuffing.

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Is this more or less linked to North America business? Is this more to fill up the channel and so the sales could moderate to some extent in the coming quarters?
Erez Israeli, CEO
The increase in the receivables is broadly in line with the growth in business and the normal fluctuations... There is nothing unusual.
Answered High priority

What is the gross margin guidance for future?

Asked by Tushar Manudhane, Motilal Oswal Financial Services

CEO provided a clear range.

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If you could just indicate the gross margin guidance, for say, future?
Erez Israeli, CEO
Overall, I expect our gross margin to range between 50%-59% in the next few quarters.
Partial answer High priority

How will Dr. Reddy's achieve top 5 in India with divestments?

Asked by Shyam Srinivasan, Goldman Sachs

CEO explained strategy but gave no concrete product pipeline details.

no specific product examplesvague on timeline
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How do we get to top five if you keep divesting? You mentioned innovation to help you double, but I'm just wondering, what are these opportunities?
Erez Israeli, CEO
The way to do that for us is by launching innovation... we can be top five even without.
Answered Medium priority

What is China revenue base and growth trajectory?

Asked by Saion Mukherjee, Nomura

CEO gave current base and a clear growth target.

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What's the revenue base in China currently? ...how should you think about revenue in China in three years' time?
Erez Israeli, CEO
I see any number of around 2x in the next three years. The baseline... is around $180 million a year.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Long-term EBITDA margin target of 25% 25% 31.7% Understated vs filing
Gross margin expected between 50%-59% next few quarters 50% 31.7% Overstated vs filing
China revenue base around $180 million per year 180 6,738 Understated vs filing
China revenue expected to double in three years 2 29 Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.