THERMAX Q4 FY25 earnings call.
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Thermax Q4 FY25 delivered INR 3,000 crores in revenue despite absorbing over INR 85 crores in Bio-CNG hits, demonstrating operational resilience. The quarter saw disappointment on order inflows, missing the management target of INR 3,000-3,300 crores due to one major loss and smaller push-outs. Industrial products performed well with 19-20% backlog growth, while industrial infrastructure carries 450 crores in FGD backlog to work through. The Bio-CNG chapter appears near closure with new technology interventions and mutual agreements with JV partner EverEnviro; management expects 2 new Bio-CNG orders in Q1 FY26 with revised (lower) yield guarantees. For FY26, management is reasonably bullish targeting improved industrial infra orders, chemicals growth, and significant reduction in FEPL losses. Key risks include ongoing order conversion uncertainty in large projects, residual Bio-CNG execution risk with 340 crores backlog, monsoon impact on field execution, and macro headwinds for industrial products. The company is selectively re-entering Bio-CNG after a year-long pause and entering ethanol EPC via international technology partnership.
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Guidance to track
- Management expects industrial infra segment to outperform FY25 levels, driven by pipeline in steel, power, waste-to-energy, and refining/petrochemical projects in H2 FY26.
- Two new Bio-CNG orders expected in Q1 FY26 with established JV partners, featuring reduced yield guarantees aligned with current operational performance.
- Bio-CNG expected to reach break-even to low single-digit profitability in FY26, with technology risk addressed and guarantees renegotiated.
- FEPL losses expected to reduce significantly in FY26 due to resolution of insurance matter, interest capitalization changes, and improved execution.
Risks flagged
- Thermax missed Q4 order targets despite April recovery, with one high-probability large loss and several push-outs. Near-term revenue depends on large order conversions in Q1.
- Despite technology interventions, yield guarantees remain below original commitments. Additional digester installation over 7 months introduces further execution risk.
- Industry-wide FGD losses reflect systemic challenges. Increased compensation claims pending with regulator; outcome uncertain.
- Management flagged monsoon season as concern for field execution of FGD and other industrial projects with large teams in remote locations.
- Analyst pressed on bad-case margin scenarios for industrial infra; CEO declined to provide specifics, citing need for more quarters of data.
Key quotes
- We missed on the orders front. I had committed that we would do better, and I thought we had a very good chance to reach 3,000 crores. Missing it by the amount that we did was a significant disappointment.
- Clearly, we could have done things better, and we didn't have to spend so much to learn what we have. But it is also a company that puts its head down and works towards what we commit to making it happen.
- What gives me confidence again is that we learn from our mistakes, and we put those into execution, and we are also investing heavily on the technology side and on the digital side that even the learning in newer areas is minimized.
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