Coforge Ltd — Q2 FY24
Coforge delivered a strong Q2 FY24 with revenue growth of 16.2% YoY in CC terms and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 17.6%, expanding 160 bps sequentially.
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How does Coforge reconcile healthy deal wins with industry slowdown?
Asked by Abhishek Pathak, HSBC
Management directly addressed the question, stating they do not relate to the slowdown commentary and provided specific areas of demand.
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So, Sudhir, my question was around deal activity. Most large players have reported healthy multi-billion-dollar deal wins, but as we've been around cost takeout, saying that the appetite for smaller deals and the deal velocity has become quite slow. Now, despite that, Coforge and even some players of similar size have continued to report healthy deal wins. So how do we reconcile this?
I can say state of the brand that we do not relate to what you talked about as commentary that you've received from some of the larger players. We continue to see a deal velocity that continues to be very robust. We continue to see median deal size climb up...
Any change in outlook or green shoots emerging?
Asked by Sandeep Shah, Equirus Securities
Management identified specific green shoots in BFS, insurance, and travel, while acknowledging macro challenges.
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So the first question, any recent conversation with the client gives you any change in view on outlook? ... some of your other peers globally, like, Globant has been booking a recovery in the second half of the current year. Are you expecting any green shoots getting emerged?
Sandeep, in BFS, we see green shoots, but we're trying to balance them against the geopolitical uncertainty that prevails. Insurance within the P&C space, we do see productization... Within the travel space, we're looking at productization, customer experience, and security as potential areas where we see emerging green shoots.
How will deal wins convert to revenue in second half?
Asked by Sandeep Shah, Equirus Securities
Management provided specific growth numbers and explained that deal wins have already converted to revenue.
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And last quarter, you said to achieve the midpoint of the growth guidance, you have to grow at 2.5% from this Q1 view from Q2 to Q4. This quarter is tagged lower despite the great deal wins in the first quarter. So do you expect the customer growth in second half?
See, unlike a lot of our peers, our deal wins have converted into revenues. So we're not one, I think it would be very unfair to start characterizing our performance, where we've grown 16.2% of the first at the end of the first half...
What levers will drive margin improvement in H2?
Asked by Sandeep Shah, Equirus Securities
Management mentioned growth and hedge gains but did not detail specific cost levers until later in the call.
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And last question, in terms of margins, to achieve the adjusted EBITDA margin being at flat, the ask rate is still at 1.5, 1.3, with Q on Q improvement in the next two quarters. So what levers which will help us to pull out, such a big margin improvement over the quarter in this year?
So, let Ajay take the second question. As far as the first question is concerned, Sandeep, we're not planning to do anything this year, which is very different from what we've done in the last years. Second half, there is a significant growth. Q3 to Q2 sequentially, we will see a very significant growth.
How should we think about offshore revenue mix going forward?
Asked by Manik Taneja, Axis Capital
Management provided a clear directional view on offshore mix trajectory.
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I had a question with regards to our offshore revenue mix. We've seen a significant increase post-COVID, and we've got this type of growth here. How should we be thinking about this metric going forward?
Going forward, we expect the climb to be far more gradual, but we still believe, given what's happened over the last 4 quarters, the number will continue to climb, but it will climb a little far more slowly than it has over the last 8-12 quarters.
Outlook on travel and transportation sector?
Asked by Manik Taneja, Axis Capital
Management identified specific spending pockets and gave a growth outlook in line with company growth.
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The second question was with regards to the outlook on the travel and transportation sector. You've had some commentary from global companies in terms of some cost pressures or demand coming off. How do you see this target business outlook for us from a 12-month standpoint?
Travel transport, we are seeing pockets of spend coming up. They are centered around security. Spend is centered around digitization, they're centered around prioritization, and they're also centered around spend being directed towards customer experience-based projects.
Why did BFS grow strongly when others struggled?
Asked by Ravi Menon, Macquarie
Management explained growth drivers and added color from John Speight on specific areas like payments and compliance.
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So you've shown pretty strong growth across all verticals. Can you explain BFS, where most people have struggled, but you actually shown pretty good growth?
That's right, Ravi, as we said, there are green shoots, even though the macros are stressed. Digital transformation spend has not necessarily gone away to play around product innovation, to play around legacy modernization.
Details on three large deals won this quarter?
Asked by Shraddha Agrawal, Asian Markets Securities
Management provided sector, new logo status, and revenue contribution for each deal.
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Can you highlight more on the 3 large deals that we've done? As in, what is the proportion of net new or deal contribution, and any highlight on which sectors have you won this deal in?
So three large deals came in. One was from the BFS space, which was a new account, and this was an account which we were kind of going after the last six months. So it's within the BFS, in, in the BFS space, so within banking. So that is one. It's a new, new logo, 100% new revenue.
How will hedge loss reversal drive 200 bps margin expansion?
Asked by Shraddha Agrawal, Asian Markets Securities
Management quantified the hedge gain impact and explained the mechanics.
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And the second question is to you, Saurabh. I mean, when you said that you just fixed the hedge loss, which have become margin, we would see the expansion of 200 bps. But when I look at the hedge loss number in absolute term, it seems to be flat quarter- on- Q business. So how does the margin expansion of 200 bps come through then?
So hedge losses in the current quarter were flat as compared to the previous quarter. Next quarter, going forward, these hedge losses will convert to hedge gains. So we will, assuming the currency remain at the current levels, we at least assume there'll be a 50 basis points flip on the margins, just because of hedge losses being converted to hedge gains.
Progress on ARC reduction and offshore mix target?
Asked by Rishi Jhunjhunwala, IIFL Institutional Equities
Management admitted ARC progress was behind plan but did not quantify the expected improvement or give a timeline for 55% offshore.
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So just wanted to understand, on both these metrics, how much... Of course, you know, offshore mix, we can see. But on ARC, how much, we have progressed in-... by when do we expect how much, you know, expansion coming from that? Then on the offshore side, any timelines in terms of, by when do you expect to reach that 55% plus?
As far as ARC is concerned, we are not happy with the progress that we made on the ARC. Second half is when we expect to be very aggressive around ARC drops. ... So long story short, we are not happy with the cost curve that has happened so far.
What levers drive 100 bps margin expansion in Q3 despite furloughs?
Asked by Saurabh Sanswani, Samsara Capital
Management listed hedge gains, ARC initiatives, and the absence of a client event cost as specific levers.
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So despite the furloughs, in Q3, you expect a margin expansion of 100 basis points. So I understand partially it's just the hedge gains expected, but what are the other levers?
One, driven, as you rightly said, because of the hedge gains, the reversal on the hedge, fund that we talked about. Second, driven by what we just talked about, the ARC initiative that Ajay and I were talking about. We expect that going forward to be also a significant lever.
Who are we winning against in BFS new logos?
Asked by Abhishek Kumar, JM Financial
Management clearly stated they win against tier-one players, not mid-tiers.
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From what I hear, what we hear from most of the players is that most of the deals out in the market are kind of vendor consolidation cost takeout deals. At the same time, we continue to win new logos in BFS space. So I just want to understand, who are we winning against?
If I look at 19 out of our top 20 clients, our biggest competitor there is a scale IT player. Could be anyone from Accenture to Deloitte to the TCS of the world. These wins are coming against those players.
| Claim | Management said | Filing | Verdict |
|---|---|---|---|
| Revenue growth 16.2% in first half YoY in CC | 16.2% | 16.2% | Matches filing |
| Sequential revenue growth 2.3% in Q2 | 2.3% | 16.2% | Understated vs filing |
Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.