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COFORGE Information Technology 19 Jul 2023

Coforge Ltd — Q1 FY24

Coforge delivered a solid Q1 FY24 with constant currency revenue growth of 2.7% QoQ and 18.4% YoY, despite a challenging macro environment.

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Revenue ₹2,221 Cr
EBITDA
PAT ₹176 Cr
EBITDA Margin 16% -50bps
Duration
Read Time 1 min read

✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered67%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected2
Numbers vs filingMixed
Claim Ledger

Did management answer the analysts?

Every material analyst question, graded on whether management actually answered it — with the verbatim exchange and quantitative claims checked against filed numbers.

Answered High priority

Details on $300M deal, order book growth, demand environment, and BFS vertical.

Asked by Dipesh Mehta, Emkay Global

CEO provided specific numbers and clear commentary on each question.

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Question
I just want to get sense about the $300 million deal which you suggested. If you can provide some more detail about the kind of work and whether any new component into it... Second question is about the overall demand environment... Last question is about the vertical.
Sudhir Singh, CEO
The $300M deal is in banking, $60M minimum locked in, not margin dilutive. Order executable is $897M, 19.1% YoY. Demand environment continues to be stressed. BFS vertical is in wait-and-watch mode.
Partial answer Medium priority

Follow-up on QoQ order book growth and incremental ACV.

Asked by Dipesh Mehta, Emkay Global

CEO answered with YoY data but did not directly address the QoQ incremental ACV question.

did not address QoQ comparison directlyreframed to YoY
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About the next term month order book, I was referring to more from quarter-on-quarter perspective, because $16 million get if I did. Is there any material inter-incremental component part of the ACV?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
Order executable growth is 19.1% YoY. Our guidance is 13%-16%. Our track record shows order executable growth closely mirrors subsequent revenue growth.
Partial answer High priority

BFS growth drivers, discretionary vs non-discretionary split, and tech spend trends.

Asked by Abhishek Pathak, HSBC

CEO explained growth drivers but avoided giving the requested split between discretionary and non-discretionary.

did not provide discretionary vs non-discretionary split
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BFS for Coforge has grown by almost 5% last quarter, again, 3% sequentially... Are the offerings for Coforge meaningfully different as compared to peers? ... what's the split for discretionary versus non-discretionary in our portfolio?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
5% and 3% is actually slow growth for us. Our focus on BFS and relationship depth allows wallet share gains. We do see deferrals. We aren't slowing down too much.
Answered High priority

Ramp-up and contribution of $300M and $65M deals over next 12 months.

Asked by Rishi Jhunjhunwala, IIFL Institutional Equities

CEO clearly stated the revenue is evenly spaced and not a step-up.

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Can you give some color in terms of the two large deals... In terms of ramp-up and contribution, say, to the next 12 months, is the entire $73 million flows through, or these are deals where there is a step up every year?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
All $73 million is going to be more or less evenly spaced out. The revenue stream is going to be uniform almost right through over the next five years.
Declined Medium priority

How much of $60M was existing vs new scope in the $300M deal.

Asked by Rishi Jhunjhunwala, IIFL Institutional Equities

CEO explicitly declined to provide the breakdown, stating company policy.

refused to disclose split
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Sorry if I missed out, but have you called out how much of that 60 was already there versus new scope?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
No, we haven't, and we don't do that for large deals. A significant chunk of this $300 odd million was revenue that was with us already or was about to be aligned with us already.
Answered High priority

Margin trajectory and key levers for 400 bps expansion through the year.

Asked by Rishi Jhunjhunwala, IIFL Institutional Equities

CEO provided specific levers and historical context, directly addressing the question.

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On the margin trajectory through the course of the year... to maintain guidance, you need probably a 400 basis points margin expansion through the next three quarters. What will be the key levers?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
We are not expecting to do anything spectacular. Q1 margin is 16%, same ramp as last two years. Levers: offshore revenue expansion, flattening pyramid, campus hires.
Answered Medium priority

Demand environment in travel and transportation vertical.

Asked by Rishi Jhunjhunwala, IIFL Institutional Equities

CEO gave a clear breakdown of sub-segments and overall outlook.

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On travel and transportation... we have seen some bit of moderation in growth... can you give some color in terms of how the underlying demand environment in that segment is?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
Airlines and airports demand continues to be strong, supply constrained. Surface logistics and hospitality seeing initial softening. Overall travel growth will be in line with company growth.
Partial answer Medium priority

Hiring plans and cost of talent given attrition decline.

Asked by Saurabh Sadhwani, Sahasrar Capital

CEO discussed hiring and cost containment but did not specify whether talent costs have actually reduced.

did not quantify cost reduction
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What are your hiring plans going forward for this fiscal? Has the cost reduced for the talent? Basically, we have seen attrition go down, but also has the cost reduced for skilled talent?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
Hiring plans in line with growth. We've built a solid bench. Attrition fall gives leeway. We have initiated cost containment exercises.
Answered High priority

Can the executable order book be considered minimum revenue for next 12 months with no slippages?

Asked by Vibhor Singhal, Nuvama Equities

CEO confirmed the integrity of the order book and lack of slippages.

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Given the kind of uncertainty... could this very well be assumed as the minimum amount of, let's say, the executable that we will have in the next coming 12 months? With a fair degree of certainty about none of the deals being put on hold?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
Our order executable only includes signed contracts. We believe almost all will hold. We have not seen material slippages over the last 6 months.
Partial answer Medium priority

Outlook on overall banking industry spend and uncertainty.

Asked by Vibhor Singhal, Nuvama Equities

CEO gave an anecdotal view but no hard data or firm outlook.

relied on anecdoteno concrete data
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Just wanted to check what is your outlook on the overall banking industry per se... do you think there is still a lot of uncertainty or hesitancy and volatility in the banking segment?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
Things haven't changed materially. Anecdotally, retail and commercial outside mortgage spend confidence seems to be increasing. One CIO was far more confident than three months back.
Answered Medium priority

Drivers of insurance vertical growth and US vs Europe demand trends.

Asked by Shradha Agrawal, Asian Market Securities

CEO provided specific drivers and confirmed both geographies are doing well.

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One is on your insurance vertical. We've seen two good quarters... What really is driving growth for us in this space? Are there any material differences between demand trends in U.S. and Europe?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
Strong growth in P&C SMB driven by alliances like Duck Creek and Bond-Pro. AdvantageGo rebounded. US and Europe both doing well for us.
Evasive High priority

Timeline for material AI revenue and net revenue impact.

Asked by Abhishek Bhandari, Nomura

CEO avoided giving any timeline or quantification for AI revenue contribution.

no timeline givendeclined to quantify
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When do you see a material contribution coming from this particular line of business? ... Do you still think the opportunity is going to be on a net basis positive from a revenue perspective?
Sudhir Singh, CEO
It's still early to call out pure play AI revenue. We have delivered GenAI projects. Net, we expect AI to be a growth enabler. Investment numbers are premature.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
Q1 Adjusted EBITDA margin 16% 16% 16% Matches filing
Adjusted EBITDA guidance ~18.3% 18.3% 16% Overstated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.