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BLUEDART Logistics 19 Jul 2024

Blue Dart Express Ltd — Q1 FY25

Blue Dart Express reported Q1 FY25 revenue of ₹1,345.7 crore, up 6.74% YoY, and PAT of ₹51.5 crore.

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Revenue ₹1,343 Cr +6.74%
EBITDA
PAT ₹53 Cr
EBITDA Margin 15%
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✓ Verified against BSE filing

Questions answered71%
Questions audited12
Evaded / deflected1
Numbers vs filingContradicted
Claim Ledger

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Partial answer High priority

Requested volume breakdown by ground, air, and surface.

Asked by Amit Dixit, ICICI Securities

Provided aggregate volumes but declined to split by ground/air/surface as requested.

refused product-level breakdowngave only aggregate numbers
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if you could just give the volume number in tonnage and number of pieces, and also state it in ground, air, and surface, that would be great.
Sudha Pai, CFO
We don't give questions within our product, you know, the information. But overall, in terms of volume... last quarter it was 83.94 million shipments, and this quarter it is 90.14 million.
Answered High priority

Asked about utilization rate and contribution of two freighters.

Asked by Amit Dixit, ICICI Securities

Provided specific utilization percentage and financial impact for the freighters.

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if you see on the utilization rate of the 2 freighters, if you could comment on that and the kind of contribution they had in Q1 FY25.
Sudha Pai, CFO
the impact of it is around like INR 115 million. Utilization... the new sector... Guwahati... is yet to be fully optimum utilized... inbounds into Guwahati is around like between 75% to 80%.
Answered High priority

Asked if freighter reached optimum breakeven utilization.

Asked by Amit Dixit, ICICI Securities

Clearly stated that breakeven has not been reached.

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I just wanted to ask whether, you know, it has reached the optimum breakeven level of utilization, or still we are?
Sudha Pai, CFO
It's yet to breakeven. It's yet to breakeven.
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Asked when freighter is expected to breakeven.

Asked by Amit Dixit, ICICI Securities

Provided a specific timeframe (September onwards) for expected breakeven.

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And when do we expect to breakeven?
Sudha Pai, CFO
We expect this somewhere around our festivities getting kicked off somewhere in, you know, from September onwards.
Partial answer High priority

Questioned margin expansion trajectory given sequential decline.

Asked by Speaker 13

Explained reasons for margin decline but did not quantify the expected margin trajectory.

no specific margin target givenblamed mix shift without quantification
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we have seen a decent 9% growth in top line, but we have seen sequential decline in gross margin... where are we in the journey of margin expansion?
Sudha Pai, CFO
Margin expansion is actually a backdrop... additional impact of the work that we have invested into the depreciation impact of those hubs... we are growing more on the surface... margins or the yield would accordingly be not as profitable.
Evasive High priority

Asked when 200-400 bps margin expansion would begin.

Asked by Speaker 13

Declined to provide timeline for margin expansion, citing no forward-looking statements.

refused forward guidancegave vague margin range
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when should we expect the, you know, that 200 to 500 basis points margin expansion story to begin?
Sudha Pai, CFO
As such, we don't give any forward-looking predictions. However... our margins, we would like to, you know, be still in an outlook of decent between 7% to 8%, you know, margin percentage.
Partial answer High priority

Asked why margins fell 150-200 bps and if it's temporary.

Asked by Alok Deora, Motilal Oswal Financial Services Ltd

Explained reasons but did not quantify the impact or clearly state if it's a one-off.

no quantification of impactdid not confirm if temporary
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what has actually happened in this quarter that margins have come off by nearly 150 to 200 basis points on a standalone basis? And is it more like a quarter thing?
Sudha Pai, CFO
we are facing a situation of growth more in the surface than in the air... the inflationary cost that has resulted in the drop of, you know, margins compared to the previous quarter.
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Asked if margin trajectory is structural or will improve.

Asked by Alok Deora, Motilal Oswal Financial Services Ltd

Provided a specific expected improvement of 2-3% in margins.

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So this margin trajectory could we see a better margin ahead, or this could be more of a structural thing?
Sudha Pai, CFO
my expectation is, you know, the margins should improve... from the current levels to another 2% to 3%.
Partial answer High priority

Asked for reason and extent of gross margin shrinkage QoQ.

Asked by Pritesh Chheda, Lucky Investments

Identified reason but did not quantify the extent of gross margin change.

no extent givenblamed mix shift without numbers
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if you could clearly identify the reason for shrinkage in gross margin between the two quarters, and if you can directly tell us the extent of this change.
Sudha Pai, CFO
It's driven by margin by the product mix... We are seeing more growth on the ground and the air... yield and stability on air is better than the ground.
Answered Medium priority

Asked if air volumes were lower in Q1 vs Q4.

Asked by Pritesh Chheda, Lucky Investments

Confirmed that air volumes were lower sequentially.

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Is it that the air volumes are lower in Q2, basically, with June quarter versus the March quarter?
Sudha Pai, CFO
Yeah, it is.
Partial answer Medium priority

Asked about number of new hubs added and CapEx.

Asked by Ankita Shah, Elara Securities

Gave a range for future hubs but did not specify exact additions or CapEx breakdown.

vague on exact numberno specific CapEx figure for hubs
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what is the capability done last year, and what is the number of addition of hubs that you've done?
Sudha Pai, CFO
Last year, we didn't have any big investment... into these hubs. And this year... another two to three or three to four... is what is our current horizon.
Answered High priority

Asked about current aircraft utilization and optimal level.

Asked by Ankita Shah, Elara Securities

Provided specific current and target utilization percentages.

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what is the level right now, and at what level, when we reach, we will achieve an optimal level according to you?
Sudha Pai, CFO
ideal actual weight, it is somewhere between 95% to 90%... Currently, it would range between 70% to 75%.
Quantitative claims vs filed numbers
ClaimManagement saidFilingVerdict
GPI contributed 3.9% to 4% additional revenue 3.9% 6.74% Understated vs filing

Filed figures sourced from Screener.in. Claims within a small tolerance of the filing are marked “matches filing”.