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PositiveQ1-FY25 · 2024-08-14Back to quarter ↗

Questions audited

12

Answered directly

71%

Numeric claims

2

Consistency

mixed

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Binay Singh · Morgan Stanley

direct

Link between inpatient volume pickup and insurance coverage increase?

We are seeing insurance growth actually happening across. It's not necessarily connected only to the urban locations. And we are seeing it across both Tier One and Tier Two locations as we speak.

Binay Singh · Morgan Stanley

partial

Is the 7% ARPOB outlook visible after election and monsoon?

July has been good, and I think we should be able to see better pickup in this quarter.

Binay Singh · Morgan Stanley

direct

Reason for sequential margin drop in diagnostics?

It was a bit of a seasonal impact that we had. And, I think, we have also made certain investments on adding specialty manpower and focusing on, some of the segments that we are not present earlier.

Neha Manpuria · Bank of America

direct

Does margin expansion depend on occupancy improvement given insurance headwind?

I think there are three levers for margin expansion. The first, of course, is payer mix... The second is, you know, over a period of time, we will be focusing on international and therefore better ARPOB. The third, of course, is case mix... And of course, there is tariff revision of 4% that will play out within the next four quarters.

Neha Manpuria · Bank of America

partial

How to balance GMV growth with breakeven target for 24/7?

We have changed that operating model from a pure digital kind of an origination to a much stronger omni approach. Give us around another quarter or so for us to get back into a growth path.

Kunal Dhamesha · Macquarie

direct

Revised GMV guidance for 24/7 given slower growth?

No, no, we are not putting... We are on course. It's just that we- see, originally we were expecting the Q2 closure will happen maybe a month here or so, but we are very much on, so we are not revising the guidance from our perspective.

Kunal Dhamesha · Macquarie

partial

Why hasn't higher occupancy driven higher profitability?

Higher occupancy not driven higher profitability will start playing out in the next few quarters. Like we said, we have absorbed a lot of, a lot of costs. The second thing that we had mentioned is that we had a lot of medical admissions this quarter, and therefore, you know, medical admissions resulted in an increase of ARPOB of only 2%.

Madhav Marda · Fidelity

direct

Can Apollo 24/7 pre-OpEx EBITDA margin improve further?

We expect this to, continue to, you know, move upwards. Would it be 25%? Can't say at this stage, but, you know, we are looking at to, hit a number closer to 20% in next, one to two quarters.

Tushar Manudhane · Motilal Oswal

partial

Is ARPOB growth peaking out, with growth driven by volume?

We would still like to believe that our, the inflation of 4%-5% is something that we will continue to do, and hence, that will start reflecting clearly. The other thing is the function of occupancy as well as ALOS, as I said.

Damayanti Kerai · HSBC

direct

Impact of Bangladesh situation on international patient revenue?

Bangladesh is about 30% in terms of our international, but as a percentage of our total revenue is about 2%. We've seen some throughout the Q1 and into this quarter, as a combination of elections and the more recent political issues, some drop in volume. We are hopeful that this will come back very quickly.

Shyam Srinivasan · Goldman Sachs

partial

What explains slower GMV growth of 9% despite pharma AOV growth?

Q1 has always been slight. You know, we are seeing that you know IPP transactions also fall down from, you know, the online side a little bit, during Q1. But, I think as far as the diagnostic and the other side of the business is concerned, they were okay.

Kunal Saraogi · Equirus Securities

evasive

Confidence in 7% ARPOB growth given higher medical mix?

ARPOB is not as much a lever for our EBITDA growth... The focus is not on ARPOB. You know, ARPOB is just a derived number. Let's see how it goes during the year. You know, it will be higher than the current levels, and I don't want to guide specifically for that 7% either.